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« on: February 07, 2010, 07:08:27 PM » |
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Hi,
i like BC realy , and like KM too - a fantastic mod ... But .... I feel the battles in BC is more with fighters than with big slow turning ships... Maybe i cant remember - but in the TV and in movie i have not seen battles like in BC (except ST-XI .................)
It is a way to slow the turning and accelerate down ? Maybe for few ships (defiant/BoP...) the actual settings nice .. but for a galaxy class ship ..?
Regards R-TEAM
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2010, 07:57:14 PM » |
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could you be more specific on what you don't like in Galaxy class ? is too maneuverable or it isn't ?
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 08:07:23 PM » |
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I don't see how the Galaxy is too maneuverable, in the show, we saw the D make very tight turns
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 10:40:17 AM » |
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I don't see how the Galaxy is too maneuverable, in the show, we saw the D make very tight turns
We saw the Enterprise spin outta control a few times but I don't think they went to overboard with it, it always seemed to move pretty slow, but reasonable to me. Anyways he's saying that the battles feel more like fighting with fighters than starships, and if he's talking about the KM Galaxy I can't say I disagree...that thing is just WAY to maneuverable. @ R-TEAM, you're going to need to open the hardpoint. On a KM install this will be in your BC directory in the src/scripts/ships/hardpoints folder. Be aware that doing this will kill multiplayer capability. Open the Galaxy hardpoint and scroll down until you see the ImpulseEngines property. You'll see lines saying SetMaxAccel, SetMaxAngularAccel, SetMaxAngularVelocity, and SetMaxSpeed. You'll need to adjust those. Lowering the numbers will make the ship slower and/or less maneuverable. You'll probably need to play with them a bit. I personally use the settings in the SNS Galaxy hardpoints for any Galaxy-class I install, as they seem pretty realistic to me, but honestly the stock Galaxy's maneuverability isn't that far off either.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 10:51:25 AM » |
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I don't see how the Galaxy is too maneuverable, in the show, we saw the D make very tight turns
We saw the Enterprise spin outta control a few times but I don't think they went to overboard with it, it always seemed to move pretty slow, but reasonable to me. Anyways he's saying that the battles feel more like fighting with fighters than starships, and if he's talking about the KM Galaxy I can't say I disagree...that thing is just WAY to maneuverable. @ R-TEAM, you're going to need to open the hardpoint. On a KM install this will be in your BC directory in the src/scripts/ships/hardpoints folder. Be aware that doing this will kill multiplayer capability. Open the Galaxy hardpoint and scroll down until you see the ImpulseEngines property. You'll see lines saying SetMaxAccel, SetMaxAngularAccel, SetMaxAngularVelocity, and SetMaxSpeed. You'll need to adjust those. Lowering the numbers will make the ship slower and/or less maneuverable. You'll probably need to play with them a bit. I personally use the settings in the SNS Galaxy hardpoints for any Galaxy-class I install, as they seem pretty realistic to me, but honestly the stock Galaxy's maneuverability isn't that far off either. Ah now it's clear, and got to admit i've toned down most ships meneuverability for my tastes as I felt the same after watching Sacrifice of Angels battle.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 11:42:55 AM » |
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I strongly suggest you use the MPE instead of notepad for hardpoint editing. One little spelling error or you accident remove a character and fail to notice that you'll only end up with a BC that is crashing.
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 04:37:48 PM » |
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and km uses pyc not py you can make a py with mpe, but then you can just edit the file
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 04:54:26 PM » |
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All KM PY files are in the SRC folder deadthunder2_0....
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 06:00:50 PM » |
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oh, didn't know that
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 06:46:30 PM » |
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Samurai is correct if you're new to hardpointing use the MPE or BCUT, I personally use notepad for hardpoint balancing (I just find it easier in most circumstances) but I've been doing it that way on my own installs for years and I know exactly what I'm doing.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 07:29:51 PM » |
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and km uses pyc not py
MPE can open pyc files, you just have to type in the filename manually.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 07:43:52 PM » |
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and km uses pyc not py
MPE can open pyc files, you just have to type in the filename manually. Not necessary either way, as Neb said, the py files in KM are in the src folder.
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2010, 02:09:15 AM » |
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Hi, @All The Galaxy class was ONLY a example  Nearly all ships are way to maneuverable ..... @Nero you get it  The ships play in battles more like fighters (maybe big fighters  ) but NOT like big spaceships and sure not like StarTrek (cannon) .... @Bones he,he - yes - i LOVE HW SOA - have from this old mod fixed a couple of bugs,and integrate the borg from the other mod StarTrek VS StarWars. Still the best RTS in space with real 3D environment. (HomeWorld) And the ships in SAO Fly real like StarTrek - THIS is cannon - not the fly in BC .... for you an eyecandy: Regards R-TEAM
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